Null TerraDad uses a computer in 2025
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It is definitely older than 2025 because you can play roblox on linux in 2025.
Yes it can.
𝄞 Inkstain (they/them)𓆩 𓆪So far I've been having a good time with Sober on Fedora (apart from semi-regular crashing but I'm willing to attribute that to my Gt 1030)
Crimson Red ☭Linux can run roblox FYI, i play roblox on linux all the time and it runs fine (using sober)
The Bard in GreenI feel like Calvin can probably be placated with Minecraft.
calvin's dad wouldn't be upset by the number of linux derivatives. he'd be thrilled. a whole new world to be autistic about.
Newbies should just install Ubuntu.
It works and is well supported. Year later go distrohopping.
That’s what I suggest anyway.
trougnoufMint is better
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exuObjectively not for new users
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JoshCodesAsk a new user, the unsurprising answer is "ez pleazee".
I'd just recommend Pop!_OS then. NVidia drivers can come preinstalled if you need them (not that it's super hard to install on Ubuntu) and no Snap bullshit - anything you install via apt uses a deb, instead of sneakily installing a snap. Flatpak still remains an option and you CAN install snaps if you want to. COSMIC as it is now, is GNOME reconfigured a bit to be a bit keyboard-friendlier and will soon be replaced by COSMIC the brand new desktop environment. Otherwise it's fairly similar to Ubuntu.
Also, Kubuntu or Mint are Ubuntu with an UI that is more familiar to someone coming from Windows. They work more or less the same.
Yeah, when I tried basic Ubuntu about a year ago, it must not have liked something about my two monitors or Nvidia GPU.
The whole desktop was shitting itself, and at one point I could see my mouse on one monitor but the clicks were taking place on the other monitor. It's a nightmare to debug things when you can't accurately click any windows or buttons.
Endeavor and Pop both worked out of the box.
My partner tried popos and it was awful. Iirc, it didn't even seem to support her multiple monitors? I can't remember for sure, but we had some issues and bailed pretty quickly. She and I both are now rocking Kubuntu, which, as you mentioned, was a much easier transition from Windows for her (and me), though I'd have her try bazzite today if Kubuntu wasn't already set up.
That is an oddity. Wish she'd filed a bug report. Unfortunately there will always be edge cases, but I'm glad to hear Kubuntu is working out. I disagree with Canonical on a lot of things, but I'd still rather see people using (K)Ubuntu than Windows.
I believe that Mint does away with the Snap bullshit as well. That was one of the main reasons I chose it for my girlfriend's laptop.
jumping redditor [they/them]Because of fragmentation linux will continue to stay behind😞 so many bugs and issues yet people still create their own solution instead of contributing to the existing one. Its like a curse..
Sure, but there's just enough mainline distros. You only really have choice if you're looking for it. And everybody else will ask someone to help and they'll most likely just install something of their choice/what they're familiar with, after considering the user's requirements.
Really? You guys only complains about Roblox? Not the crt mon? Not the monitor size? Not the horizontal pc case? Not kids able to complete a full sentence? M$ would drop support for old kb and mouse if they can. Only linuxer would spare their love for old hw.
gerryflapAren't CRT monitors actually quite nice for pixel art games? Maybe the dad just really likes his old games
He's an og quakeworld player running it in 320x200 sw@120Hz/fps. It's native on Linux since 1998, so the switch for him makes sense.
But how does this old pc able to run m$ wins that needs cloud account? The most unrealistic point is m$ has empathy on old hw and their users. That's my point.
As an old curmudgeon, I refuse to learn what the Roblox is
It's child exploitation for profit:
investigation: How Roblox is Exploiting Young Game Developers
Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper.
It's the only piece of consumer software I've ever used that I straight-up thought should be illegal after I tried it. If you're a parent, and you're wondering if you should let your child explore Roblox: DON'T. Ban any videos that mention Roblox from their apps, do not install the game, and do not ever give that company a single cent. The entire structure is designed to torment children and yank on their psychological levers until they beg their parents to buy them in-game currency to turn their low-low into a high-high for a couple of minutes, then restart the cycle.
There are VIP areas that you have to have a subscription (pay) to go into, and devs are incentivized to add them by kickbacks, so they show up in just about every game. In competitive games where you chase other players to catch them, if you don't have VIP the other players can literally just go through a wall you can't pass to get away. Then they can get boosts in the VIP area to get an unfair advantage.
There's the "revenge" buttons, where if someone in a competitive game wins against you, it gives you a button you can click to to punish the other player in various ways. Naturally, it costs real money.
Obstacle courses start out decent, but once you're far enough in that the sunk cost fallacy is in effect, it ramps the difficulty up massively and frustrates you over and over. And each time you respawn it makes you walk past the item you can buy that will make this frustrating part disappear and get you back to the nice dopamine hits like you had earlier in the map.
And of course, every game tries to make people who buy the pay-to-win items as visible as possible, and make it look as spectacular as possible. It's masterful psychological manipulation, and while the games with these exploitative systems are made by devs external to Roblox itself, the economy and reward systems that shaped those games is defined by Roblox. It's actually worse that you have external devs, because it insulates Roblox from the responsibility for these exploitative mechanics, while Roblox acts as the bank you use to buy currency for the games. Roblox only cares about money, and they don't care how many abusive things their games have to do to kids to get it.
I'm about as far from a pearl-clutcher as you can get while still being a responsible parent, but even before considering that the social features are repeatedly being used to groom children, Roblox simply should not be allowed to exist. Play Goat Simulator 3 with your kid instead. Or Minecraft. Or Terraria. A Lego game. Bayonetta. I don't care--anything but Roblox.
Gotta get them started early on the capitalism train. Prove to them that money makes right.
If you can buy it, it's morally good! :)
If it doesn't make a profit, it's morally bad! :(
If you can't get exactly what you want, don't work for it, just buy it.
Money is the only thing you need. You don't need friends. Or family. Or a community. You see they are all just trying to get your money!
Seriously, we are brainwashing people with these fucked up game mechanics. These are very young impressionable children.
All of this is ignoring that pedophillic aspect of Roblox which is also horrific.
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In this house we're a Minecraft family
nah we play terraria
As a similarly old curmudgeon, my understanding is that it's like Second Life, but with the ability for users to create whole-ass games. And (hopefully) less cybersex considering the primary audience is underage
To get items in Roblox for a relative, I used to pretend to be a child and find users who would groom me. They were entirely unaware that I was quite probably older than they were. I saved hundreds of dollars on gifts, and it didn’t cost me all that much time. Roblox is not safe for kids
I play online with my son and have never ever seen that. It's almost all tower defense games which would be a different crowd.
What games were you playing that had that kind of chat going on?
Ninja something, muscle something, and a game that looked a bit like prototype. All incremental games. As you can tell, I wasn’t particularly invested in them. I don’t imagine you or your son begged in global chat for several minutes at a time with intentional spelling errors.
any RP game also has some of that
Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news...
It's not second life at all. It's a game platform like Steam. But they made it super easy so kids starting coding their own games.
Back in the 80's there were computer magazines that would post BASIC code you could type in and play a simple game. Kids would mail in their code and it would be published. Same exploitation of child labor.
its more like play store games but all of them run on a single engine
and i say this because play store games has way more p2w garbage than steam
Unfortunately, whole ass-games are very much present on Roblox (they're so common there's a six-letter collective noun for them which I won't repeat in this SFW community).
Shovel? As in shovelware?
No.
are you talking about the T word?
No. The Co word.
ok i thought it was Tycoon but this might be something new (i havent played in a couple of years)
proving once again you are a wise curmudgeon
I play Roblox with my son using Linux. The program is called Sober and it’s more than fine, it’s free, and updated regularly when Roblox security/program updates.
Similar boat... 4 years ago (or so) that is all my kid wanted. For those who care, Roblox purposely blocked Linux, there is nothing inherent in the OS that would make Roblox not run.
Took a bit of config but managed and my kid was able to play that garbage for a few months until the novelty wore off
yeah i remember the devs were talking about adding actual support for linux, and all they did was block it
Is there no way to play roblox currently? I thought there was a launcher that did weird stuff to the android version like we have for minecraft bedrock
Yes, it's called Sober. It is not official, and may lose functionality at any time due to updates to client-side anti-cheat.
My kids use it almost daily. Really only breaks for special events. Otherwise an update fixes all other issues.
Yeah, what’s that about? Events like The Hunt and I’m completely locked out. Sober just puts a “totally normal, Roblox did this, and we’re sorry” message up but I’ve never know the why.
My teenage daughter who will probably never try crack because she has Roblox instead gets deep into this stuff. She said that the developers of Sober disabled it for "The Hunt" voluntarily just to avoid drawing any ire from the Roblox developers since they're vaguely aware of Sober's existence and I guess tolerate it as long as it isn't causing problems for them. If anyone was accused of using Sober to cheat during such a high profile event it would be bad news for them.
ok ive played roblox for years (i have also stopped playing a couple of years ago) and what the heck is the hunt
It was a big scavenger hunt event where they awarded some pretty hefty cash prizes. It lasted several weeks from what I remember.
No one should patronize Roblox. They exploit child labor for profit:
investigation: How Roblox is Exploiting Young Game Developers
Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper.
When you hear "Roblox" you should think "child exploitation".
I don't see how Roblox is any worse than every other platform. If a child makes an app and puts it on Steam, Steam takes 30%. If a kid makes a YouTube channel, YouTube takes their cut of ad revenue.
Roblox made it easy enough to code that it got kids excited to write their own games. If any other game platform made it as easy, they'd have the same "child exploitation" problem.
A lot of it deals with the fact that Roblox doesn't pay you out until you accrue some critical mass of value. If a kid makes an app and puts it on Steam and it sells 2 copies, they're getting paid for those 2 copies. Not so for Roblox. You require 30,000 Robux to cash out - which seems to be quite a lot, actually, considering the documentation I'm reading on their own webpage advertises this with photos that show 97,493 total Robux earnings from this presumably rock-star developer that you want to be like, and buyable items costing between 80-600 Robux.
It should also be noted that I cannot locate any mention of a dollars-to-Robux ratio without an account, which I do not have and am not making, so God only knows what rate they actually pay you out at once you do manage to acquire your 30,000 Robux. The primary use case of earned Robux is to then invest them back into the in-game shop to purchase content that other users have made. Robux actively doesn't want you cashing out and makes it as difficult as possible to do so.
I'm personally not too upset about a game primarily made from user created content, I think it's kind of cool, but the way they've tied real money into the process feels very icky and scumbaggish to me. My particular issue with Roblox is the rampant pedophilia and sexual grooming that the devs are either unwilling to alienate (since, presumably, this population makes up a not-insignificant percentage of their user base) or else actively in cahoots with, because this has been a known problem for many years but approximately zero steps have been taken to address it.
Isn't that how YouTube works?
I googled and 30k robux is $109.
This post is crazy misinformed besides the 30k robux thing. Here's a calculator for robux conversions:
https://romonitorstats.com/devex-calculator/. The DevEx program is whack but I think it pays better than Spotify.
You can make quite a lot. Look at Creatures of Sonoria. The real issue with Roblox is the zero age controls. Putting pedophiles right next to children since like 2003.
Roblox didn't just "make it easy", it's their entire business model, which is the problem. Watch the videos. The discussion isn't about how much of a percentage Roblox takes, it's about how kids basically get pressured to work in digital sweatshops to create the content which is what Roblox sells.
Those lazy kids need to work harder. Most Roblox games are crap.
https://devforum.roblox.com/t/the-ultimate-guide-on-how-to-run-roblox-on-linux-studio-player/3171920
If you're not using Hannah Montana Linux you should just go eat poison and save the Linux community from your existence.
I thought for a sec this was [email protected], anyone knows what happened to it? It's been a week since the bot posted something there